this hosting has gotten extremely boring, and with the lowered level cap, it really is too easy to cap

bring back 3.5, it was the most fun i've ever had in FFO, and alot of the community i've talked to that has been around agrees, give FFO a pwipe, put it in 3.5, and we can all have fun :D

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I 2nd this opinion.

Also raise the newb level cap back to 19.

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reply to Jtmoney85:

obviously you dont know much on 3.5, there wasnt a newb cap lol

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reply to Po:

I know how Gaku says he doesn't want to "back-track" well...if this continue I say Gaku is back-tracking. Not only is he losing the community, he's letting someone that's destroying the game code. (Dean) I don't know if you guys see it, but their is no such thing called a perfect game.

3.5 brought back good times, where their was really a amount of people playing the game, always on and had fun exploring.

I'm not saying edit anything from 4.0 and put it into 3.5. Just keep 3.5 how it originally was. Dean's going to come in here and say (BS) but his BS means nothing. He's just 1 person, I'm pretty sure the community wants 3.5. Give them what they want. NO special events for exp gains, just all fun and games. And when terulia comes out, you can then close 3.5 and host it. If people prefer 3.5 then you should cancel terulia, and work on 3.5 making it better and adding more levels on it, and seeing what new ideas people have to offer.

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Lanail wrote:

reply to Po:

I know how Gaku says he doesn't want to "back-track" well...if this continue I say Gaku is back-tracking. Not only is he losing the community, he's letting someone that's destroying the game code. (Dean) I don't know if you guys see it, but their is no such thing called a perfect game.

3.5 brought back good times, where their was really a amount of people playing the game, always on and had fun exploring.

I'm not saying edit anything from 4.0 and put it into 3.5. Just keep 3.5 how it originally was. Dean's going to come in here and say (BS) but his BS means nothing. He's just 1 person, I'm pretty sure the community wants 3.5. Give them what they want. NO special events for exp gains, just all fun and games. And when terulia comes out, you can then close 3.5 and host it. If people prefer 3.5 then you should cancel terulia, and work on 3.5 making it better and adding more levels on it, and seeing what new ideas people have to offer.

Where the hell is that Like Button?

Being someone who always hears of the fun times of 3.5 yet never was able to witness it in all its glory, I would like to see why 3.5 was such a great time first-hand.

Besides, if Gaku is just hosting FFO until Terulia is done, at least host something that would make FFO more popular, which would inevitably make a much larger playerbase for Terulia in the long run.

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3.5's glory is overstated.

The only 'nice' part is that soloing alone isn't hard at all, nor is it expensive on the gear if done decently well enough.

HP totals get absolutely bonkers for endgame to the point where PVP isn't even an entertaining thought. Who wants to attack some knight who has 15,000 HP and regens 100+ a second and barely gets hurt? Who wants to attack some BW who zerks you for an hour from one spell?

Gold prices get prohibitly expensive. A single piece of your precious endgame drops cost obscene gold. For instance a guardian blade swung once at an imp? 1k gold repair fees. Adamant shield got hit? 400 gold repair fees.

It ain't as great as people keep parading it about to be.

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I support this idea.

I support it so much I'm using the spelling check for this.

Thats some real stuff. I didn't say "shit" because its ****.

Anyway, I think if we bring back 3.5 we will get some players to return, and prevent all of them from leaving.
Hardly any players want to play FFO as it is. It's boring as hell.

If Gaku wants a good player base for Terulia a good idea would be to bring back 3.5 instead of this horrible version of 4.0 until it goes up, then maybe we will actually give it a try instead of leaving.

Why do you think, FFO used to have 2-3x as many players on as this at any given time, but now nobody likes it?

I understand this whole thing where you want "balance" well, the kind of "balance" you are doing is ruining the game. Stuff is OP, stuff isn't OP. There will always be things that are more powerful than other things.

You can't "balance" FFO, you can only try and make it a boring piece of trash. As "broken" as 3.5 was, it was fun and really, it's a game, isn't it being fun 100x more important than it being balanced? Think about that.

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reply to Kumog:

Kumog have you even played the current version?

These things called Pugs are dropping tier 7 giants blades etc that are impossible to repair. And it isn't even fun, like you might think it could be.

What do you mean who wants to attack a knight with 15000 HP? Everyone! Then you get to talk smack when you kill it.

Long fights aren't bad and if you don't like them avoid them.

The current version is trash. It just sucks in every imaginable way.



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reply to Kumog:

Kumog back then, you wouldn't have said that, hell you were ALWAYS on the game. Anyways, back on topic.

For those who disagree with not brining back 3.5. Fine, great, that's all dandy. You're entitled to your opinion. But the thoughts of you playing the game and being on it constantly and haven't been playing 4.0. Why should your opinion even matter?

You look at it in a boring way, what do you mean getting attacked for an hour? You must mean someone in a low level killing you, that's why you have "friends" they will come to your aid I'm pretty sure within that hour. Also, so what about repair cost, people don't look in your point of view. I like the game because it was fun and entertaining. Soloing, fighting, domain warfares, towers, stone towers, ETC. fun fun fun....

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reply to Sai So Beast:

Spell check, eh? Seems like I have taught you something.

Also, for the first time ever, I agree with something Sai says. Or rather, everything in that post that applies to me, as I never played 3.5...

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Sai So Beast wrote:

You can't "balance" FFO, you can only try and make it a boring piece of trash. As "broken" as 3.5 was, it was fun and really, it's a game, isn't it being fun 100x more important than it being balanced? Think about that.

The thing is, Terulia is a completely different game that is supposed to focus on balance and fairness to the new players. Other than that, I agree that trying to perfect FFO is not going to accomplish that much. I have always believed that the game being fun to a large amount of people is more important than trying to make everything equal.
As for what will happen, and as I mentioned, FFO is currently being used to test things like TRC. I think that if Gaku finishes with the things he is using FFO for, this could be a possibility unless he wants to keep it there in case he has more to test.

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reply to Tea:

I'm glad you posted that Tea, and I understand what Gaku is doing. But listen, I know rumors been flying around how people aren't gonna play Terulia etc etc.

Well hey, what if that rumor is true? Who is he trying to build the game for, this community or another community? I'm pretty sure if the remainder of this community leaves, then they wouldn't even know anything about an 'FFO'(Final Fantasy Online.)

Basically what i'm trying to say is, I don't blame gaku for not wanting to host 3.5. But atleast listen to the community, I'm pretty sure, Dzung wouldn't play Terulia, nor would Norkia, nor would the "Band of 7." I don't know guys, I'm not sure who would play it, what Dean? But that's just 1 guy, and of course he would play it, but til what? A certain extent? I don't know guys, something is real fishy about that....3.5 will always be a collector Item, so why trash something that valuable we're making topics about it. What is this like it's 5-6th revival? Obviously we still want it back, so make it happen? Rite?

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reply to Tea:

Gaku can easily add the TRC to 3.5 and other than that leave it untouched.

I'd like it.

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How would bringing back 3.5 help Terulia?

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reply to Haze:

Well their's numerous of ways it'll help Terulia with. Such as Publicity wise, ideas, and ways to make the game better. Like take the skills from 3.5 and somewhat involve it into Terulia.

Involve the tactics the ways 3.5 run and involve it in Terulia, overall.

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This hosting being extremely boring is a matter of opinion. This hosting is here for Terulia testing, as you should know by now.

Bringing 3.5 back would counter the point of this hosting and void all updates made to this hosting.

I'm only posting here to inform you, not to argue against 3.5. It's okay that you want it to come back, but that's just false hope.


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Idk, 3.5 wasn't that much fun. I'd much rather play this where it is as balanced as it is. Bringing back a non level capped game would be silly, since it obviously caters to those who spend every waking moment playing, they would be the only ones that stand any chance of doing anything. Idk if thats what you guys want, but it sounds counter productive to me.

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reply to Dawn:

It might be a matter of opinion but it is a matter of opinion 70% of players share. SO if 70% of players think FFO is boring, and there is already a low amount of players, you guys are expecting 30% of the tiny bit left to stay and it still somehow be fun?

Maybe you all will have fun with like, 6 players. Probably not. If you do thats great for you but a game with only 6 players on max is probably failing hard.

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You're wrong with two things:

Your percentages and the fact that you think you know the percentages.

It's not worth discussing though.

This topic is null, it should be easy to figure why if you read my last post.

Tea is also right in saying that it *may* be fine to bring 3.5 back once this hosting has no meaning and the community reaches an agreement.

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Lanail wrote:

reply to Haze:

Well their's numerous of ways it'll help Terulia with. Such as Publicity wise, ideas, and ways to make the game better. Like take the skills from 3.5 and somewhat involve it into Terulia.

Involve the tactics the ways 3.5 run and involve it in Terulia, overall.

Just thought I would add that, I'm pretty sure Gaku didn't want the FFO playerbase/vets/oldbies to be the playerbase of Terulia. Sure there will be people who try it out, but he'd prefer that more new people populate it. Again I'm not quite sure because someone said that he said it, and I can't remember who said it.

Also, another reason why Terulia is important, is because BYOND no longer advertises fan based games. Terulia will also have the visiblity on BYOND, which FFO will not have even if it is changed back to 3.5.

One thing I would like to say though, is the possiblity of leaving FFO alive, whether its 4.0 or 3.5, after Terulia is hosted. Since FFO will no longer be visible, it shouldn't distract new players from Terulia as much as he originally thought. The problem with that though, is he'd have to deal with both games, and I doubt he would have any interest in FFO at that point.

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