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Expanding Administration
Grameramera 2:31 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)
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Locke will soon be appointing 3 new adjunct admins (with my approval).
These admins will represent relatively diverse points of view within the FFO community.
They will not have any GM abilities and will lack some of the regular admin abilities.
They will be, however, be able to ban/mute and discuss pending moderation.
All bans will be posted on the forums and discussed by the admins before final judgments are made.
More details will be posted later by Locke, who will still be in charge of administration.

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Marcus 2:32 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)

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=)

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Zeno 2:32 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)
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Will it at least be people that are on more then once in a blue moon?

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Oondivinezin 2:34 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)
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Not everything I'd hoped to see change, but it's a step in the right direction.

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deanbad 2:42 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)

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We need a black guy, an asian guy and a mexican.

Seriously though, sounds good.

With admins all serving the same purposes, upholding rules, setting a good example for the rest of the community and such, what of the admin/gm powers?

The past four or so admin/gm appointed players we've had have all consecutively shown that they can't be trusted to handle gm conceal, as it is now, responsibly.

I think the conceal ability should have the ability to walk over dense tiles removed.

Even better, since it seems that a lot of things are being logged now, whenever conceal, warp-to or summon are used, an explanation of what said ability was used for is notated and logged with appropriate time-stamps.

This is the protect the players as well as the admins.
This provides supportive evidence when a player accuses an admin of misuse of their abilities.

Anyone agreeing with me here?

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Locke 2:42 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)
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We will also take suggestions in this topic. Gaku and I will be discussing them together, so it won't entirely depend on me and how I see you.

Also, for Dean:

They will not have any GM abilities and will lack some of the regular admin abilities.

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The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.
 
Marcus 2:42 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)

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I would have to suggest deshawn for Admin, because hes one of the most level headed people i know.

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sub0flame (12:58:03 AM): do you love me gaku?
sub0flame (12:58:07 AM): like a man loves a woman?
sub0flame (12:58:10 AM): or a man loves a man?
sub0flame (12:58:14 AM): or a man loves his dog?
sub0flame (12:58:16 AM): or a man loves his car?
sub0flame (12:58:17 AM): or his house?
Gakumerasara (12:58:20 AM): nothing can stand in the way of our bromance

Sam0Ayam (9:57:14 PM): how the aff did you know that?
Sam0Ayam (9:57:20 PM): I mean, YOU of all people
 
Cea 2:44 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Dean wrote:
We need a black guy, an asian guy and a mexican.

Seriously though, sounds good.

With admins all serving the same purposes, upholding rules, setting a good example for the rest of the community and such, what of the admin/gm powers?

The past four or so admin/gm appointed players we've had have all consecutively shown that they can't be trusted to handle gm conceal, as it is now, responsibly.

I think the conceal ability should have the ability to walk over dense tiles removed.

Even better, since it seems that a lot of things are being logged now, whenever conceal, warp-to or summon are used, an explanation of what said ability was used for is notated and logged with appropriate time-stamps.

This is the protect the players as well as the admins.
This provides supportive evidence when a player accuses an admin of misuse of their abilities.

Anyone agreeing with me here?

Yes to all this I think...

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Oondivinezin 2:45 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)
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I could agree with Deshawn. It's more of the matter if he would want to be admin or not...

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Enigma 2:47 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)
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Deshawn, Cea, Sinsie. Those are my nominations. Cea currently owns the world and is actually very fair, he lets people he hates live in his domains whichever ones they so choose. I think his role as a leader is demonstrated through that. And i think we can all agree on Deshawn being one of the coolest mofos around. and Sinsie lulz

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Exophus 2:47 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)
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Dean wrote:
We need a black guy, an asian guy and a mexican.

Seriously though, sounds good.

With admins all serving the same purposes, upholding rules, setting a good example for the rest of the community and such, what of the admin/gm powers?

The past four or so admin/gm appointed players we've had have all consecutively shown that they can't be trusted to handle gm conceal, as it is now, responsibly.

I think the conceal ability should have the ability to walk over dense tiles removed.

Even better, since it seems that a lot of things are being logged now, whenever conceal, warp-to or summon are used, an explanation of what said ability was used for is notated and logged with appropriate time-stamps.

This is the protect the players as well as the admins.
This provides supportive evidence when a player accuses an admin of misuse of their abilities.

Anyone agreeing with me here?


The problem isn't the abilities, it's the people being chosen. If you have an admin abusing abilities, the solution isn't to remove the abilities... I can tell you that much.

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Zeno 2:48 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)
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Enigma wrote:
Deshawn, Cea, Sinsie. Those are my nominations.


^

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Oondivinezin 2:48 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)
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I'd say Cea and Sinsie as well. The three already mentioned seem like the best candidates, in my opinion.

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Marcus 2:49 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Exophus wrote:
Dean wrote:
We need a black guy, an asian guy and a mexican.

Seriously though, sounds good.

With admins all serving the same purposes, upholding rules, setting a good example for the rest of the community and such, what of the admin/gm powers?

The past four or so admin/gm appointed players we've had have all consecutively shown that they can't be trusted to handle gm conceal, as it is now, responsibly.

I think the conceal ability should have the ability to walk over dense tiles removed.

Even better, since it seems that a lot of things are being logged now, whenever conceal, warp-to or summon are used, an explanation of what said ability was used for is notated and logged with appropriate time-stamps.

This is the protect the players as well as the admins.
This provides supportive evidence when a player accuses an admin of misuse of their abilities.

Anyone agreeing with me here?


The problem isn't the abilities, it's the people being chosen. If you have an admin abusing abilities, the solution isn't to remove the abilities... I can tell you that much.


You make it sound as though some humans are perfect, and some are not. Temptation always exist so yea, removing the abilities might be a starting point to fixing abuse issues.

Letting potential abuse exist doesent fix the problem.

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sub0flame (12:58:03 AM): do you love me gaku?
sub0flame (12:58:07 AM): like a man loves a woman?
sub0flame (12:58:10 AM): or a man loves a man?
sub0flame (12:58:14 AM): or a man loves his dog?
sub0flame (12:58:16 AM): or a man loves his car?
sub0flame (12:58:17 AM): or his house?
Gakumerasara (12:58:20 AM): nothing can stand in the way of our bromance

Sam0Ayam (9:57:14 PM): how the aff did you know that?
Sam0Ayam (9:57:20 PM): I mean, YOU of all people
 
deanbad 2:49 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Locke wrote:
We will also take suggestions in this topic. Gaku and I will be discussing them together, so it won't entirely depend on me and how I see you.

Also, for Dean:

They will not have any GM abilities and will lack some of the regular admin abilities.


I'm talking about YOU. Not the new admins. I know how to read.

Edit: Exophus: I understand that's the ROOT of the problem, but it's better to not leave a plate of food on the floor and hope the dog doesn't eat it.

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"Take this shipment of supplies to Gillian, and try not to murder anyone's parents along the way, alright?"
 
Exophus 2:50 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)
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If only Game Hunter grew on trees. =[

Cea and Sinsie for admin.

Edit: But still. I think ideal admins should be able to control themselves in the presence of such abilities.

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Darlute 2:53 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)

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If we're looking for admins pick Cea and/or Sinsie and I'm semi lazy to state the reasons why

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Marcus 2:55 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)

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It realy does annoy me when a ton of people read a topic and never post in it. To all the people looking im pretty sure you have something to say so say it. Also why dont some of you nominate your selves or someone else thats not the obvious bunch instead of riding their wazoo?

Edit: Its not like if more people that tell gold to rain from the sky, it will increase the likely hood if that happening.

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sub0flame (12:58:03 AM): do you love me gaku?
sub0flame (12:58:07 AM): like a man loves a woman?
sub0flame (12:58:10 AM): or a man loves a man?
sub0flame (12:58:14 AM): or a man loves his dog?
sub0flame (12:58:16 AM): or a man loves his car?
sub0flame (12:58:17 AM): or his house?
Gakumerasara (12:58:20 AM): nothing can stand in the way of our bromance

Sam0Ayam (9:57:14 PM): how the aff did you know that?
Sam0Ayam (9:57:20 PM): I mean, YOU of all people
 
Locke 2:55 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)
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I'm talking about YOU. Not the new admins. I know how to read.


I've had these abilities almost since I first became an admin, and I've only noclipped to dodge pvp once, and that was a mistake. I've never used the abilities for anything remotely abusive aside from that. They are, however, very useful for their intended purpose.

That's all I'm going to say on that. This topic is to announce our decision and discuss possible new admins. Make a new one if you want to debate whether I handle my abilities properly and whether GM should stay or not.

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The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule.
 
deanbad 2:56 AM on October 25, 2009 (+0/-0)

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I disagree with having them both.

One maybe.

It's like politics. Balance things out with different parties.

We need a Ron Paul, an Obama and some fag.



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