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Removing That THING in Sankora
DeshTheWraith 5:18 AM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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The sewer problem in IGH needs to be fixed too.

Innate domain flaws shouldn't be a big problem (see Haze's post about 5 man takeovers, or the mountain ruining the ability to get across sankora quickly to defend against multiple invasion points as well as taking up valuable building room) that makes the domain easier to take than others.

And nobody wants to hear "when we owned it we managed this and that" cause the fact of the matter is, sure you crammed in the essentials and managed about 1 or 2 pc houses, but every other domain can pull that same feat off with half a dozen pc houses AND have plenty of room to move about.

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Cea 8:54 AM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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"When I had it blah blah blah"
You guys are so petty, haha.

Haze and Deshawn have covered most of the things so that's good.

It's just hilarious you guys are arguing that it's balanced.

And your question Dean... We DO want all domains to be the same. Maybe not same shape. Maybe not same location. Maybe not same resources near it. All would have some advantages and disadvantages but from the basics they should be some what similar. Why shouldn't all domains have an equal chance of success?

You guys quit trying to be all high-horse better-than-me about this because I didn't even build the town this time around. Magi built it. I'm just saying the town is incredibly unfair compared to all other domains. Besides the small size, the askewed walls (on all sides), and that giant worthless mountain in the middle, it even has that SMALL south entrance. Which I haven't a clue why it has. It has two decent sized entrances I don't get why a third smaller one must be thrown in.

I think everyone who logically looks at this domain could agree that it has many aspects that make it one of the hardest to use/worst domains. And the biggest problem being that mountain in the middle.

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deanbad 9:25 AM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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I disagree. A domain having a better chance of success is part of what makes certain domains more appealing than others.

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Cea 10:27 AM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Then we should remove scaling too. Because scaling exists in large because Gaku doesn't want one "best" place.

Then you saying some domains being better than others goes against that.

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Locke 12:13 PM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)
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or the mountain ruining the ability to get across sankora quickly to defend against multiple invasion points as well as taking up valuable building room)


That's not the problem with defending Sankora. Its your army flooding the narrow entrances, and the fact that you have three said entrances. That's why domains like Tristram will always be better: One big broad entrance, so you have lots of room to maneuver and what not.

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Magnus Sforzando 12:36 PM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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When taking over a domain one should be aware of all the risks, problems, benefits, etc. etc. Why should it be removed just because you're short sighted and cant deal with it.

For example, no one takes over Irendi Castle at level 10 unless they have a back up plan where they can spawn somewhere else.

As well as siege attempts in the past have failed on Irendi Guard House, even with that secret entrance.

It's not petty, Its "why bother fixing something thats not broken". Not everything has to be easy.



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Hazedreamfreysaraboy 12:44 PM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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MagnusGallant wrote:
When taking over a domain one should be aware of all the risks, problems, benefits, etc. etc. Why should it be removed just because you're short sighted and cant deal with it.

For example, no one takes over Irendi Castle at level 10 unless they have a back up plan where they can spawn somewhere else.

As well as siege attempts in the past have failed on Irendi Guard House, even with that secret entrance.

It's not petty, Its "why bother fixing something thats not broken". Not everything has to be easy.



The problem is, everywhere but Sankora and Irendi Guardhouse don't have any real problems. The problem is Sank shouldn't even BE a problem, because it's just a weakness in the mapping that makes it a clusterfuck to even do anything when an army is activated. Have you ever tried to get around town with the army activated? Try it out.

Also, with the guard house, the only reason someone failed siege on it is if they either:

A) Didn't go through the sewers or
B) Weren't high enough level to outlast the army.

A small team of 3 could take it without any effort whatsoever. There is literally no reason to have even a small percentage of failure at taking it from the secret entrance. You gotta understand that with that spot, all it takes is a blocker, a healer, and a nuker. That's IT. 3 people to ruin days and days of hard work.

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Magnus Sforzando 12:53 PM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Find a way to deal with the problem. Yeah Ive had no problems moving in sankora wit a full army.

Again, when taking a town, You should be aware of the problems, and challenges it presents. If you cant handle it, dont touch.

The mountain adds to the spice of life, as well as the secret entrance to IGH.

(I cant belive I said the spice of life, I'm gay)

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Hazedreamfreysaraboy 1:00 PM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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You obviously have no idea what balance means so there's no point in responding to your nonsense.

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Magnus Sforzando 1:20 PM on October 04, 2009 [ edited by Sinsie at 10:12 PM on 10-05-2009 ] (+0/-0)

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I think it's blanced just fine. Learn to deal with the hole you dig.


Also Terulia is around the corner, so again why bother?

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Aries 1:25 PM on October 04, 2009 [ edited by Aries at 1:34 PM on 10-04-2009 ] (+0/-0)

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Gaku should just make it bigger to spite everyone. If you don't like your domain, go and take over another one. Last time I was there, it was functional. You don't need to cover every little thing in a domain, I'm pretty sure it was made small and difficult on purpose.

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Hazedreamfreysaraboy 1:55 PM on October 04, 2009 [ edited by Sinsie at 10:13 PM on 10-05-2009 ] (+0/-0)

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Why bother? It should have never been that way in the first place. Again, it's not balanced, and no one dug a hole. Magnus your post just made absolutely no sense. It's no one's fault except whoever mapped it.

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Magnus Sforzando 2:16 PM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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It makes perfect sense if you can understand an analogy

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Magnus Sforzando 2:23 PM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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I like change just fine, but there is nothing wrong with it.

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Magnus Sforzando 2:28 PM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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It fits everything in it just fine with room to move. I suggest you get someone to remodel it.

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Magnus Sforzando 2:46 PM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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I never said it was great buddy. Its just fine it works fine. GOD FORBID you try to find an alternate route to make it work out, instead of saying, "Change this I don't like it because I cant build it my way"

Learn to adapt.

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Magnus Sforzando 3:33 PM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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I play the game plenty.

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Cea 3:35 PM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Haha wow some people are pathetic.

What alternate route do you suggest?

(Also bro nice owning Magnus with the analogy bullshit)

It's crazy that it would take Gaku two minutes to open the map and remove the mountains then zip to IGH and make the sewer thing 2 tiled and people throw this much of a bitch fest.

Like he said, we all HAVE adapted man. There shouldn't BE a need to adapt like that.

If you try and say I plan domains badly then that's horrible because (full of myself a second here), I'm one of the best domain planners in the game. And the max upkeep is a JOKE in Sankora. It can't support full army / guards like ALL other domains can.

bitch more pls

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deanbad 3:37 PM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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From a balancing perspective, why should all domains be easy as fuck to defend?

I think some domains being limited in certain aspects, balances out the fact that the other domains are easily defended.

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Cea 3:38 PM on October 04, 2009 (+0/-0)

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Dean wrote:
From a balancing perspective, why should all domains be easy as fuck to defend?

I think some domains being limited in certain aspects, balances out the fact that the other domains are easily defended.

Too be honest I don't see your logic at all.

You say that because I own all domains.

Normally each domain is owned by some one else.

Therefore you're just fucking one group over.

Logic pls?

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