I didn't say any uncc'd player can beat any capped player in the game. But if 3 capped players got after BW's..without any dark or fire armor. They really don't want to win.

It's partially a matter of expecting the unexpected. One being, I have never made an alt that didn't have an ample amount of dark armor. I don't care level a BW is a compared to me. Unless he knows I'm in dark armor most of the time and has a really powerful other 2 elements he can't smoke me at random whims. Also, I usually grab a couple granite/lit and fire pieces because lit/earth are a RW's favorite elements. As well as Fire being a BW's favorite. I ususally even get a radiant piece just to force a WW to have to melee me to death if attacked.

A lot of this game is reflex...for instance if you get hit with a concealed attacker and you weren't paying attention so you spend a moment going "where did that come from?" and they get another attack off, your in the worse possible position, especially if it's not a melee. In which case there's a 11/10 chance you've been status spelled by the wizard.


I myself have very literally tried to explain to people how SIMPLE it is to kill me or Vin when we're going around killing people.

It's true this is all based on knowledge and whatnot, but it's not as impossible as you guys make it out to be. It's not hard to figure out how to go about it. But like I said: excuses to be weak.

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Absolutly not, unless mobs are scaled WAY down that would be so stupid. Soloing would no longer be possible, 50% of the games map would go unused. That would just be so boring. Low teir equip.....what the point of garland, normal plains at night are now epic dragon spawns...whats the point of dragons?

No more raiding so wheres money coming from. Youd need epic training parties just do irendi at day. And by epic I mean 10plus people. Thats just dumb IMO. Personally I like being able to run places alone, or solo/run anywhere in the world. I dont wanna have to count on somone everytime I wanna go somewhere.

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I can't run anywhere solo anyways so nothing will have changed for me.

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The problem with your elemental gear being that it works once.

If you are lucky. Then most players would remember, and avoid using said element. I've seen it with Dar all the time.


Dark 3...27 damage? Ok Lit 2!...etc...etc...etc.

Are weaklings to walk around the game buffed against every element so they don't get randomly attacked by any one of dozens of attackers?

I'm not saying that them being out classed is wrong, I'm just against people saying it's 'their fault for being weak'. It's still an unreasonable expectation to have of our newbie population.

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I named the 3 most common elements that are used in drive by kills besides poison. That gives you a chance to gather yourself and fight back.

Other than those elements the only other one I know of people having is water, air, and ice. Most either don't have that or it's too low to driveby with.

What more do you want?

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I get the feeling we are arguing different points here.

Whatever, I'm going to pull back before it develops into an all out flame war. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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I'd support a pwipe and a level cap of 20 only if the prof cap was raised quite a bit.

That would actually be fun come to think of it..

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I'm not sure how much work would have to be put into it but just thinking about it makes my eye twitch.

A lot of issues that arise with a low world cap have been addressed in terulia. Seems like this is better left in Terulia in my opinion.

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Exophus wrote:

What issues are there?

Stats
Exp gains/requirements
Prof gains/requirements
Newbie Status (maybe)
Equipment/equipment stats
Monsters/monster stats/monster scaling
Army stats

IDK. A lot of things.

Monsters could be all evened out, meaning everywhere in the game is equally difficult to train in, more or less.

Like I said, all this and more has already been addressed for Terulia. I'd kind of rather make people wait for Terulia to experience it instead of them getting it half-assed on FFO.

It's all up to Big G.

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There's no problems with any of that but okay mr head developer.

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Cool passive-aggressive flame bro.

All of those things have problems to some degree. You can't just change the world cap to 20 and expect everything to be fine.


Maybe the next time you go to the store you should pick up some foresight.

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Maybe you should explain how there will be problems.

The only thing I forsee having problems is the rate that profs go up at, and even then I think it's fine because if what we're going for with this is numbers being more significant than power, then people should have to work for any edge they have on others.

Hell, why not even make it so monster experience is reduced to what it was before and we could have Gaku implement a quickly put together form of the suggestion where profs go up more from using them as opposed to proffing them? It could be tweaked if it's found to be too harsh or too forgiving easily.

Anyway, stats are fine. Newbie status is fine. Equipment's fine. Monsters are definitely fine.. And aren't armies supposed to scale or some shit?

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Kenny's got a shitton of scary gear okay I never did outclass him in the equips department. I can even take out batts but kenny is just... ugh that excellent pincer. That and the fucker learned a way to be godly with the targeting system for his skills...

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lordphoenix wrote:

Kenny's got a shitton of scary gear okay I never did outclass him in the equips department. I can even take out batts but kenny is just... ugh that excellent pincer. That and the fucker learned a way to be godly with the targeting system for his skills...

thanks LP. :)

@Zekion: Rawr

Although i must admit that hitting for 500 plus is fun. I was just lucky this server with my equips though.

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...God I fucking hate your axe. Quick someone complain knights are op'd so the get nerfd and I can kill him. Wait dont...../begins new adventure

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I don't know how that axe is so accurate, especially since he DWs with it...it's a mystery.

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Zekion wrote:

Seisul killed me too :( Knights are goldy.


I mean godly...

i know whats that's like, he killed me twice in NB with me being lv 16 after Delving so much from me getting mass killed in GsH!

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