I think as domain leaders we should be able to command our units... We should also be able to plan the platoons, like the first wave of units to appear in battle and such. Domain leaders should be able to tell any single army unit where to go, or even as a whole. You should be able to tell them not to push friendly PC characters off the walls as well. I hate trying to defend my domains but the NPC units keep throwing me off the wall for a spot on it, PC characters should be the most important things on the walls, the army should recognize this and not try to fill in the void for the PC characters.

Along with this, I don't think that Mages should get sleep. NPC units are for help to defend the domains, not win the domain's wars. That's why we have PC characters. The fact that NPC army units have a status spell is entirely over powered, especially when them units already do so much element damage to any PC character.

Constructive thoughts are accepted, do not flame the ideas please.

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More seriously though I don't see a good reason to remove sleep.
I'm surprised to see someone who relies on confuse, a spell with a pretty much 100% hit rate, almost exclusively and casts it not only on her enemies but herself complain about such a thing.

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I have 1 reason for sleep removal: it wastes a mages turn, if a mage sleeps you almost 100% of the time you get hit directly after and start moving again, I've never had a mage's sleep spell halt me in any way, I just get up cure and move on, when that mage could have been blasting me

Also, dean you sneaky ass, I was gonna say "kimi asked not to flame the ideas" then I was reading urs and was like, your flaming kimi not the ideas :D

Also, the rest for army control seems like a giant time waste

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Dean wrote:

SOUNDS LYKE QQ KIMIKO SOUNDS LIKE QQ

More seriously though I don't see a good reason to remove sleep.
I'm surprised to see someone who relies on confuse, a spell with a pretty much 100% hit rate, almost exclusively and casts it not only on her enemies but herself complain about such a thing.

Excuse me? I only use confuse when I'm out numbered or if Deylin is around, cause all she does is spam sleep/confuse. And sleep is just as over powered as Confuse. Also, if I had it my way, I'd remove all Status spells from the game entirely, the only reason I even got water was because Marcus used to spam confuse. Hell, this character I made was to fight Marcus, not you people. This isnt about me though. This is about the suggestion, so stay on topic.

Sleep on an NPC unit is over powered, especially when there's 10+ of them casting on you at once. As I said earlier, PC characters are meant to win wars, not the NPC units. Everything in this game was nerfed, including health. So why should an NPC unit do so much damage to people? The average health amount for a Red Wizard is like 750. Even less for a black wizard, now if these Mages are doing 150+ element damage each and they're casting sleep like every other spell cast, how is that even close to balanced at all?


Edit: The health average also includes health Suffixes, mind you.

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Po wrote:

I have 1 reason for sleep removal: it wastes a mages turn, if a mage sleeps you almost 100% of the time you get hit directly after and start moving again, I've never had a mage's sleep spell halt me in any way, I just get up cure and move on, when that mage could have been blasting me

Also, dean you sneaky ass, I was gonna say "kimi asked not to flame the ideas" then I was reading urs and was like, your flaming kimi not the ideas :D

Also, the rest for army control seems like a giant time waste

This coming from a person who never even fought against a full mage army. You're always complaining that you have no internet and etc. Mage's sleep last at least 3 hits. Which is more than enough time to kill people since you're stunned after you wake up.

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Honestly it seems that mages are pathetic now, they sleep too often, 1 spell breaks it and they can't do enuf dmg to pk me before I cure and move again, I even have 588 health and was sitting beneath trist for 5 minutes ****iing with the army solo until pc chars came and pked me, I was slept like 10 times and nothing was even near lethal, I was even at one point surrounded by guards, the armys are pathetic, and their sleep is nothing more then a nuissance
In fact I believe if they lost sleep those every other sleep casts would be more tier2 spam and you would die faster

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Sleep from the army is the only way the army can ever kill me because it prevents me from curing for that precious fraction of a second.

You can tank Tristram's entire army if no PCs are present? Really? Really?

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sup i'm a mage and i have the least amount of health of any army unit.


sup i'm a fail group of people who can't kill an army.




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I was on just today at a friends place ****ing with trists army and they had atleast 6 mages on my screen, I'm not some dumb **** acting smart, I actually play and only comment on things I've experienced or have went through or find a solution to, honestly nothing is special about armies, people cried bout em last server, they got nerfed and ppl still cry, last server wasn't even that hard to take a domain's army down, the only threat of a mages sleep is if a pc is there to help, otherwise its real simple for a rw to run or get away alive

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Po wrote:

Honestly it seems that mages are pathetic now, they sleep too often, 1 spell breaks it and they can't do enuf dmg to pk me before I cure and move again, I even have 588 health and was sitting beneath trist for 5 minutes ****iing with the army solo until pc chars came and pked me, I was slept like 10 times and nothing was even near lethal, I was even at one point surrounded by guards, the armys are pathetic, and their sleep is nothing more then a nuissance
In fact I believe if they lost sleep those every other sleep casts would be more tier2 spam and you would die faster

Go fight at tristram and the come type a post. Mage's sleep isnt 1 hit then it's over. It's more than one hit.

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Dean wrote:

sup i'm a mage and i have the least amount of health of any army unit.


sup i'm a fail group of people who can't kill an army.

You're one to talk. Didn't see you guys at GsH today. Fact still stands, mages with sleep is OP. Since sleep never fizzles ever.

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Also, locke, the entire army doesn't spawn at once, only the guards and around 10 army units spawn at once

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Po wrote:

Also, locke, the entire army doesn't spawn at once, only the guards and around 10 army units spawn at once

Try 20 units and the guards.

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Kimiko wrote:

Dean wrote:

SOUNDS LYKE QQ KIMIKO SOUNDS LIKE QQ

More seriously though I don't see a good reason to remove sleep.
I'm surprised to see someone who relies on confuse, a spell with a pretty much 100% hit rate, almost exclusively and casts it not only on her enemies but herself complain about such a thing.

Excuse me? I only use confuse when I'm out numbered or if Deylin is around, cause all she does is spam sleep/confuse. And sleep is just as over powered as Confuse. Also, if I had it my way, I'd remove all Status spells from the game entirely, the only reason I even got water was because Marcus used to spam confuse. Hell, this character I made was to fight Marcus, not you people. This isnt about me though. This is about the suggestion, so stay on topic.

Sleep on an NPC unit is over powered, especially when there's 10+ of them casting on you at once. As I said earlier, PC characters are meant to win wars, not the NPC units. Everything in this game was nerfed, including health. So why should an NPC unit do so much damage to people? The average health amount for a Red Wizard is like 750. Even less for a black wizard, now if these Mages are doing 150+ element damage each and they're casting sleep like every other spell cast, how is that even close to balanced at all?


Edit: The health average also includes health Suffixes, mind you.

You always like to act like you're innocent, when you're not. Whenever you see someone even when I'm NOT there I hear "she confused me again, she confused me again, now razrig confued me, confused me again" on skype.

You're a liar. If -I- didn't get you with my status spells first, you'd status spell me. With you? It's all just a matter of who gets off the first status spell cuz that's the only way your team can kill me. I get slept, confused, feared, muted, almost at the exact same time. You scared??

Sleep isn't over-powered in Mage army units. It's the 1 status spell that mages even get and if someone has a good party full of healers sleep doesn't even matter. Seeing as your side of the war has nearly 5 White Wizards every time they try to take Tristram I'm surprised you are complaining about mages having sleep.

The other beginning part of the idea I think is pretty much useless.

Also:


QQ, fixt.

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Kimiko, your exxagerating badly, a mages sleep prof is not above 40, and mine is 45 and I barely get 3 in, only if I'm super lucky, and at 35 sleep I was lucky to get 2 in, I'm guessing their prof is around 35 at the highest, I was ****ing with their army today, what part of that weren't you getting?

Mages sleep is only 1 hit and done, even with 0 sleep res, go take a single mage let him sleep you then see how many til it breaks, they are only a threat in huge swarms and with pcs on

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Kimiko wrote:

Dean wrote:

sup i'm a mage and i have the least amount of health of any army unit.


sup i'm a fail group of people who can't kill an army.

You're one to talk. Didn't see you guys at GsH today. Fact still stands, mages with sleep is OP. Since sleep never fizzles ever.

haha, oh please. we've been at your doors every day this past week destroying alllll of your army.


you're complaining about sleep never fizzling while confuse is the same way? that's cool. how about we increase the fizzle on sleep and give the army units confuse instead? we'll just make sure that little rw bug is removed first :]
totally being sarcastic to emphasize how bad that idea sounds.



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Dont flame the ideas coming the little girl who flamed every topic I posted the other day.

Anyway, sleep isnt as bad as your making it out to be. QQ more.

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Dean wrote:

sup i'm a mage and i have the least amount of health of any army unit.


sup i'm a fail group of people who can't kill an army.

Sup I'm a fail group that can't take a domain with no army.

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Razrig(zkillerz0 had 23 rangers in his army, I activated it and he counted 10 present in all the domain and the guards, I've experienced this, so I'm going off of what I've seen and what I've tested to be true

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Nolynn wrote:

Kimiko wrote:

Dean wrote:

SOUNDS LYKE QQ KIMIKO SOUNDS LIKE QQ

More seriously though I don't see a good reason to remove sleep.
I'm surprised to see someone who relies on confuse, a spell with a pretty much 100% hit rate, almost exclusively and casts it not only on her enemies but herself complain about such a thing.

Excuse me? I only use confuse when I'm out numbered or if Deylin is around, cause all she does is spam sleep/confuse. And sleep is just as over powered as Confuse. Also, if I had it my way, I'd remove all Status spells from the game entirely, the only reason I even got water was because Marcus used to spam confuse. Hell, this character I made was to fight Marcus, not you people. This isnt about me though. This is about the suggestion, so stay on topic.

Sleep on an NPC unit is over powered, especially when there's 10+ of them casting on you at once. As I said earlier, PC characters are meant to win wars, not the NPC units. Everything in this game was nerfed, including health. So why should an NPC unit do so much damage to people? The average health amount for a Red Wizard is like 750. Even less for a black wizard, now if these Mages are doing 150+ element damage each and they're casting sleep like every other spell cast, how is that even close to balanced at all?


Edit: The health average also includes health Suffixes, mind you.

You always like to act like you're innocent, when you're not. Whenever you see someone even when I'm NOT there I hear "she confused me again, she confused me again, now razrig confued me, confused me again" on skype.

You're a liar. If -I- didn't get you with my status spells first, you'd status spell me. With you? It's all just a matter of who gets off the first status spell cuz that's the only way your team can kill me. I get slept, confused, feared, muted, almost at the exact same time. You scared??

Sleep isn't over-powered in Mage army units. It's the 1 status spell that mages even get and if someone has a good party full of healers sleep doesn't even matter. Seeing as your side of the war has nearly 5 White Wizards every time they try to take Tristram I'm surprised you are complaining about mages having sleep.

The other beginning part of the idea I think is pretty much useless.

Also:


QQ, fixt.

Loooool what? In shyron, me and vigo were tearing you guys up but you had to spam confuse on Vigo so I hit you with it back. Also they can 'say' that I confused them when I really didn't, I -never- use confuse on anyone who doesnt use status spells. I killed your entire party with fire 1 while you idiots kept trying to sleep/mute me. Good times.


The fact that you guys are even narking on these ideas is because you don't want your precious over powered army to be nerfed. Lag is a huge factor in this game, mind you. And NPC mage units don't download resources like normal players do (And way too often)

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