reply to Nerserus2:

Your argument "no one plays" isn't an argument even. It's your opinion on how the game is run. So you don't think the game should be updated and improved upon while "no one" plays. And by the way, your idea of "no one" seems incredibly flawed, as this topic alone has proven that "no one" is indeed some one.

Before you act all high-and-mighty you should consider getting a real argument towards the idea because right now you're simply trying to avoid the idea altogether, which isn't a counter-idea, and it isn't an argument.

Have a good day, smarty-pants.

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Nerserus2 wrote:

Shane wrote:

Nerserus2 wrote:

seeing as noone read what I said earlier

Cea wrote:

I love this logic so much.
Why fix anything or improve the game, no one plays!

Do I ...... really need to go in-depth about this, or can I just leave it at that? -_-'

Shane wrote:

Cea wrote:

I love this logic so much.
Why fix anything or improve the game, no one plays!

Do I ...... really need to go in-depth about this, or can I just leave it at that? -_-'

QFT

At least two people have read what you said, because our posts have in some way been as a response to your post. Therefore, you are wrong. That's how logic works, right?

Before you get to eager to dissect what I said and **** talk me, I was using it as a figure of speech to basically say the people arguing didn't actually pay attention. Honestly, people wouldn't act like this in real life.

Oh, don't worry, I'm not really eager to dissect your statements. I'm just making fun of you until you get a real argument.

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I'd be down for a percentage system, because seeing as I only PvP when I'm capable and not grossly outnumbered (and i'm good at pvp), I found the percentage system more rewarding than detrimental (see any time people killed tyrael on this system it was like getting garland all over again). It's easy to avoid getting a percentage that would cause you to drop your gear; you just don't kill someone with a high percentage (the percentages were listed next to character's names in who)

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reply to PcP:

The "current" system was supposed to only provide protection to players inside or very very near a domain in case anyone forgot.

It's actually very easy to avoid getting percentages at all this way but the system hasn't worked since it got changed.

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reply to Professor:

The "current" percentage system is so situational (even if they did work) that there's almost literally no point for them to exist. Percentages going back to how they worked before on even a basic level would be much better than what they are now, which is why I brought it up in the first place.

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Dr. Letha wrote:

reply to Professor:

The "current" percentage system is so situational (even if they did work) that there's almost literally no point for them to exist. Percentages going back to how they worked before on even a basic level would be much better than what they are now, which is why I brought it up in the first place.

Current system is better just doesn't exist.

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Killa wrote:

Current system is better just doesn't exist.

I don't know how you could form an opinion on how something that's never successfully worked before and thus never tested works better than something that actually worked overall rather well, but okay.

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Dr. Letha wrote:

Killa wrote:

Current system is better just doesn't exist.

I don't know how you could form an opinion on how something that's never successfully worked before and thus never tested works better than something that actually worked overall rather well, but okay.

Gaku described in detail how this system is SUPPOSED to work. That is better than the old system that was bad in every way.

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I dont know which percentages you trying to get back...

but, raven had just started and some black mage was crazy ++ on percentages attacked her, she killed and she had -1000 percentage she couldn't play for like 4 days and lost interest after that. making my ffo life horrible... Granted she had no idea bout %'s, which made it worse for her.



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Dricien wrote:

I dont know which percentages you trying to get back...

but, raven had just started and some black mage was crazy ++ on percentages attacked her, she killed and she had -1000 percentage she couldn't play for like 4 days and lost interest after that. making my ffo life horrible... Granted she had no idea bout %'s, which made it worse for her.

Raven must have been hostile to the Black Mage before it attacked her. Either way, I'm certain any admin with half a brain wouldn't let anyone get over, say, 200-250% were the old system re-implemented. People who just stocked up on pvp protection were stupid anyway and should have had it wiped. Of course that's all in the past now, and I'm not talking about the possibility of going back to the old percentage mechanics, not how they were moderated (which I will admit was rather silly sometimes).

The problem wasn't with the system. The problem was with the players.

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Dr. Letha wrote:

Dricien wrote:

I dont know which percentages you trying to get back...

but, raven had just started and some black mage was crazy ++ on percentages attacked her, she killed and she had -1000 percentage she couldn't play for like 4 days and lost interest after that. making my ffo life horrible... Granted she had no idea bout %'s, which made it worse for her.

Raven must have been hostile to the Black Mage before it attacked her. Either way, I'm certain any admin with half a brain wouldn't let anyone get over, say, 200-250% were the old system re-implemented. People who just stocked up on pvp protection were stupid anyway and should have had it wiped. Of course that's all in the past now, and I'm not talking about the possibility of going back to the old percentage mechanics, not how they were moderated (which I will admit was rather silly sometimes).

The problem wasn't with the system. The problem was with the players.

Rather alltimes. And considering this server the admins have less duping and GM to abuse and lost hard without those, they'd ****ride their team more percent-wise. No need to put up a transparent ruse Relleth xO!

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reply to Dr. Letha:

Most likely someone (hydrocrush) walked into a turf fire caused by her and exploited it to ruin her game.

Or I'm totally wrong and percentages was the best thing that ever happened to FFO and everyone loved it and we were all so heartbroken and raged when percentages didn't work and we all flooded the forums as soon as it stopped working demanding that Gaku readd it.

I mean yo, remember when percentages worked? Good times, man. Good times. Noone ever had problems with it that threatened to end characters, it worked perfectly and meant because one guy murdered you thrice anyone. ANYONE. Who ****ed with you was going to say bye-bye to their wizard staff. It was the best fun I ever had on FFO.

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Killa wrote:

Rather alltimes. And considering this server the admins have less duping and GM to abuse and lost hard without those, they'd ****ride their team more percent-wise. No need to put up a transparent ruse Relleth xO!

Coming from the lackey of the man with arguably the biggest track record of suspect abuse and ban history who begged for years to get admin, all to have it taken away in less than two days as a result of completely taking advantage of it (and then talking about how he never did anything wrong), you're one to talk about exaggerating about admin "abuse", X happening as a result of Y, fabrication of events, and overall *****ing about how the admins have been working. I've never seen someone so inexplicably narrow-minded in regards to events and how they occurred since, like, Tyrael.
But that's not pertaining to this topic so stay on topic xO!

If you're going to ***** and moan about how this "system" is better than the past percentage system AND any possible modifications of the past system rather than actually admit that you might be wrong and that the old percentage system on even its most basic level might be better than the completely useless percentage system now, then I don't see what you're trying to prove by posting (other than trying to pull off your passive-aggressive boy-who-cried-wolf stance towards admin "abuse") about "L O L BROKED SYSTEM BETTER".

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(Dr. Letha) wrote:

(Killa) wrote:

Rather alltimes. And considering this server the admins have less duping and GM to abuse and lost hard without those, they'd ****ride their team more percent-wise. No need to put up a transparent ruse Relleth xO!

Coming from the lackey of the man with arguably the biggest track record of suspect abuse and ban history who begged for years to get admin, all to have it taken away in less than two days as a result of completely taking advantage of it (and then talking about how he never did anything wrong), you're one to talk about exaggerating about admin "abuse", X happening as a result of Y, fabrication of events, and overall *****ing about how the admins have been working. I've never seen someone so inexplicably narrow-minded in regards to events and how they occurred since, like, Tyrael.
But that's not pertaining to this topic so stay on topic xO!

If you're going to ***** and moan about how this "system" is better than the past percentage system AND any possible modifications of the past system rather than actually admit that you might be wrong and that the old percentage system on even its most basic level might be better than the completely useless percentage system now, then I don't see what you're trying to prove by posting (other than trying to pull off your passive-aggressive boy-who-cried-wolf stance towards admin "abuse") about "L O L BROKED SYSTEM BETTER".

Let's clear some things up, since apparently long-winded baseless masses of bull**** are how you like you communicate.

All of Black's "abuse" track record consists of.. guess what! Player killing.. the primary feature of the game. You, your friends (who are now admins), and the admins at the time were abusing glitches and Game Master/Admin powers to outright CHEAT. There is a difference between playing the game and CHEATING. Black GAVE UP admin because the community complained.. he never used any admin powers while he had it, and was demoted for NERSERUS killing someone in Argo (something that your admins friends have done time and time again, using duped gold and GM spawned items, too). I have never seen such a fabricated piece of bull**** attempted to be passed off as a legitimate argument in all of my time with this pathetic community.

Did the punishment fit the "crime"? No. Did we care enough to keep fighting over it? No. It's pathetic that you would compare a part of the game to blatant abuse of power for personal gain. It's even more pathetic that you would attempt to bring back a broken system to benefit your group (the only people playing right now). Percents benefited people with domains most. The people who live in Argo, and real victims of spam-killing, were often punished by abuse of it rather than helped, like Raven.

What further exemplifies my point is the fact that you allowed months to pass without any complaint and only made a serious push for percents back after you had lost due to lack of cheating beyond a shadow of a doubt. Good day sir, you lose. You get nothing. My best advice: learn to play or find a new game.

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Killa wrote:

rage of a thousand black men

Off topic ;}



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Dr. Letha wrote:

Killa wrote:

Rather alltimes. And considering this server the admins have less duping and GM to abuse and lost hard without those, they'd ****ride their team more percent-wise. No need to put up a transparent ruse Relleth xO!

Coming from the lackey of the man with arguably the biggest track record of suspect abuse and ban history who begged for years to get admin, all to have it taken away in less than two days as a result of completely taking advantage of it (and then talking about how he never did anything wrong), you're one to talk about exaggerating about admin "abuse", X happening as a result of Y, fabrication of events, and overall *****ing about how the admins have been working. I've never seen someone so inexplicably narrow-minded in regards to events and how they occurred since, like, Tyrael.
But that's not pertaining to this topic so stay on topic xO!

If you're going to ***** and moan about how this "system" is better than the past percentage system AND any possible modifications of the past system rather than actually admit that you might be wrong and that the old percentage system on even its most basic level might be better than the completely useless percentage system now, then I don't see what you're trying to prove by posting (other than trying to pull off your passive-aggressive boy-who-cried-wolf stance towards admin "abuse") about "L O L BROKED SYSTEM BETTER".

I sort of expected better of you Letha, but I'm a fool like that. Did you even reread that to see how obnoxious that was before you posted it? I don't see what Blax has to do with me on the whole abuse thing. I could go ahead and say that you 'accidentally' changed Blax's name, I bet you covered your mouth and gave a little girlish giggle at that whoopsie. And yes that started the chain reaction of my outburst and indeed, my deletion and the rest of Blaxco.

Oh right you weren't punished for that were you? But Blax pked someone in Argo. And my god, noone exaggerated so much since the 'No Mixed Race' parade outside the white house. I also like how you say I am narrow minded when you are the grand-master of saying events in a way that is favourable to what you wish. Which, amusingly enough, is pretty much this entire topic.

Lets just cut the bull**** here, the elephant in the room. The real reason this topic exists is because you have another plan that needs a game change to properly exploit and hence you'll say anything, no matter how ludicrous, to make it happen. This, along with many topics you post in, is as staged as a dictatorship election. I can't believe even you have the balls to say the percentage system was better than nothing.

If what you said was true and it was better than nothing people would of been upset if it went ages ago. Until you prove that wrong you can be as personal as you like, you're still wrong.

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Dr. Letha wrote:

Killa wrote:

rage of a thousand black men

**** **** **** you crippled my nonexistant argument and now I have nothing to do but resort to petty "trolling" because I can't win even though I try SO HARD.

I heard a dose of reality can hurt people with serious superiority complexes, sorry for the mental distress + I'll approve your request for more time to think hard for a comeback.

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You're all retarded.

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Shane wrote:

You're all retarded.

You're ***.

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Killa wrote:

Shane wrote:

You're all retarded.

You're ***.

You are all out of control and this topic has spiraled into chaos. None of your posts are relevant. And I'm ****ing sick of you people *****ing about X ABUSED Y!! You guys say that about everyone. Ever. It loses meaning after awhile. Boy. Who. Cried. Wolf. No one loved him.

If I was an admin right now I'd ban you from this forum and delete all the posts you made today, because they are ****ing **** and completely pointless. Learn to argue your point in a controlled, intelligent matter, or don't post.

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