Cea wrote:

Weird Locke, Sinsie and I like to be admins partially to avoid people like you getting it. Weird how worthless that point is.

I highly doubt that's a big reason for you guys, but hey if people believe it, its highly unlikely I'll get you to stop saying it. I think its pretty obvious from the way you guys desperately fling yourselves in the spot light whenever theres any drama that this is far more about personal power and your position than caring about the community or wanting to keep people like me from being admins. It seems to me you're just afraid I might not let everything go perfectly how you want it. In fact, as long as you were talking to me, you were perfectly content to let me do just about anything as long as you could use me for whatever you wanted. And when you realized that's not the case? Well, here we are.

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In fact, if I trusted Dean a little more, I'd nominate him to be an admin alongside Locke. He's very impartial when it comes to his asshattery and having a rules lawyer as an admin is very beneficial.

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Okay so Garral who does nothing but troll and grab attention, Locke who has lost all credibility, and Kumog, a moogle, are against us.

First off your whole bad admin crap is just that, crap. We never had to ban Norkia for bug abuse because they didn't abuse bugs. Why? Because we were admins. They knew that we'd ban them. It's hilarious we've said this countless times and Norkia has ADMITTED it and yet this is all you can use over and over. That mantra training bullshit? They said they didn't even want to HINT at it to us because they feared us banning them or reporting them.

At around this time we see Kaji using boot to save her parties from PvP... But regardless, we stayed strong. We had GH watching over us and none of you newfags know much about GH but to say he stood on Moral High Ground is an understatement. And we cared a LOT about what he thought.

Do you know who went to Gaku? Dzungaria-type people. Because they were too ignorant to even ATTEMPT to try us out first. They just ASSUMED. By the way Kumog, these are the same people who had hundreds of fabricated photos they were saving up to try and get Sinsie demoted (also has been admitted).

Furthermore as the age of admins has moved on it's gotten worse and worse and I've seen people who hate my guts admit it was better when Sinsie and I were admins.

And Locke, we've been saying that's why we picked admin for YEARS. That's the ORIGINAL reason we took it. We didn't want some one like TRISTAN NITE or some one like SEISHORO to be admin.

And me playing mind games with you? I tried to be nice to you and treat you unlike an admin. Treat you like a normal player. And you liked that, calling me your friend and shit. But this recent event has proven you don't WANT to be treated like a normal player. Thus I will TURN on you.


Anything I messed you blind swaps?

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I didn't even mention them using 'bug abuse'. I specifically mentioned them breaking rules, especially with harassment.

I was not mentioning Dzungaria's rulebreaking in that form, I was referring to how any time it was someone against you who was reported, you were ever so quick to ban and punish them.

Norkia or your allies being reported for harassing people repeatedly? We were lucky if we even saw a public admonishment.

Your inability to show anything to the public eye when you did anything, EXCEPT to your enemies, is a horrible reason to have you as admin, once again.

Unable to be truly impartial, unable to show the public what you have done except when it is advantageous, unable to keep your rage in check, to the point that you, the admins at that time, ragequit the game.

When you're able to get so angry over a game that you will quit due to the anger, it is a clearcut sign you are not admin material. We need admins that can keep a cool head throughout, not one that will flare up and rant and rave and scream at the playerbase and their friends.

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Kumog wrote:

I didn't even mention them using 'bug abuse'. I specifically mentioned them breaking rules, especially with harassment.

I was not mentioning Dzungaria's rulebreaking in that form, I was referring to how any time it was someone against you who was reported, you were ever so quick to ban and punish them.

Norkia or your allies being reported for harassing people repeatedly? We were lucky if we even saw a public admonishment.

Your inability to show anything to the public eye when you did anything, EXCEPT to your enemies, is a horrible reason to have you as admin, once again.

Unable to be truly impartial, unable to show the public what you have done except when it is advantageous, unable to keep your rage in check, to the point that you, the admins at that time, ragequit the game.

When you're able to get so angry over a game that you will quit due to the anger, it is a clearcut sign you are not admin material. We need admins that can keep a cool head throughout, not one that will flare up and rant and rave and scream at the playerbase and their friends.

You keep saying this but I honestly have no clue where any of it is coming from. Sinsie and I tried to make it a point to look at our allies just as hard as our enemies.

Like honestly right now you're just doing one guy's word over another. It's worthless and not contributing at all. As Sinsie said, sounds sort of like a petty grudge developing here...

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Kumog wrote:

Gaku had raised a stink at the both of you onforum, asking why HE was being reported to instead of you two, when the report specifically mentioned how you two did NOTHING against Norkia.

Another case in point: Letto blatantly sexually harassing Emma.

Even if it's over Dsay, sexual harassment is not something you let fly, even if it's from someone who "doesn't know better." They will not ever "know better" until you show them that what they did was wrong, not just laugh at them.

You two may be folks I would call friends, but you are not people I would call good admins in any form. As Locke stated quite succinctly, you two let things fly way too often when it came to your friends, but when it was other people (such as Dzungaria), boy that hammer would come down.

Locke may not be perfect, but he at least will not hesitate to enforce the rules on those who break them, even if they would be his best friends.

Having a drive to "help the game" is nowhere near as important as the ability to be impartial, an ability that you and Cea clearly lack.

About to prove you wrong Kumog.

But first, Cea and I told Emma SO MANY TIMES that as admin she was allowed to ban Letto for what he said. She didn't do that. When Black and/or Adrino did, they got banned for it that time. How can you even blame that on me anyways when Emma HERSELF is an admin? I can't do anything past that if she says no to banning him.


Here's a conversation me and Locke just had. If you think Locke will not hesitate to enforce the rules, think again. Just read it yourselves, I couldn't get through to him at all and gave up:

View your entire conversation history with this contact

Locke said:
Hey still got that PM I sent you earlier that quoted what Oondi told me?
Locke said:
fine be that way!
Sinsie said:
sorry I was searching my MSN history thinking you c/p'd it here
Sinsie said:
then I re-read "PM on forum"
Sinsie said:
Yes I have it
Sinsie said:
if you wanted it I sent it
Locke said:
I found it in my history, but thanks.
Sinsie said:
where's that block button...
Locke said:
what...
Sinsie said:
find it in YOUR history, rasa....

Sinsie says (8:55 PM):
so what, now you're saying you did exactly what Emma did?
Sinsie says (8:55 PM):
You knew about it but did nothing?
Sinsie says (8:55 PM):
:/
Locke says (8:56 PM):
Why don't you read the topic...
Sinsie says (8:56 PM):
I did. You're accusing all this stuff but haven't said anything
Locke says (8:56 PM):
I posted again.
Sinsie says (8:56 PM):
your word against mine?
Sinsie says (8:56 PM):
so me trying to find facts versus you saying stuff?
Locke says (8:56 PM):
Its kind of cute how you guys try this every time anything happens.
Locke says (8:57 PM):
Why don't you read the entire post before you say anything...
Sinsie says (8:57 PM):
It's cute looking up old facts on forums...
Sinsie says (8:57 PM):
Let's see, you guys and the most powerful group of individuals in the game were allies, and I saw you were getting away with things.
Sinsie says (8:57 PM):
What things
Locke says (8:57 PM):
I guess, I could do that too, but I know that nobody who wants you as an admin is going to listen, so why bother? Your 'facts' don't even make sense.
Locke says (8:58 PM):
Uh I don't know, maybe the stuff I and Kumog listed in our previous posts.
Sinsie says (8:58 PM):
WHAT
Locke says (8:58 PM):
Really do you just block things out of memory to try to validate yourself, or what?
Sinsie says (8:58 PM):
you dont' LIST anything
Sinsie says (8:58 PM):
nothing specific
Sinsie says (8:58 PM):
that's what I"m asking
Sinsie says (8:58 PM):
can you do that?
Locke says (8:58 PM):
I can't remember specific instances, as I mentioned in the topic exactly.
Sinsie says (8:58 PM):
then how do you even know it happend?
Sinsie says (8:58 PM):
you're not even being vague, can you see why I can't understand?
Sinsie says (8:59 PM):
you're giving me nothing
Locke says (8:59 PM):
Just because I can't construct a specific instance in my head and put it into words doesn't mean I don't remember it.
Sinsie says (8:59 PM):
...
Locke says (8:59 PM):
...
Sinsie says (8:59 PM):
so, I did something, but you don't know
Sinsie says (8:59 PM):
and you're stating it
Locke says (8:59 PM):
No, I do, I just can't put it into words exactly, so I'm not going to try. I can't remember the specific people it concerned, or when exactly it happened, but I can remember it happening.
Sinsie says (9:00 PM):
"you guys just post the same stuff over and over"
Sinsie says (9:00 PM):
that's what you're doing to me right now
Locke says (9:00 PM):
I also don't reference old posts, and make it seem like they mean something they don't.
Sinsie says (9:00 PM):
Old posts that had a past use in proving something before?
Sinsie says (9:00 PM):
do you even think?
Sinsie says (9:00 PM):
what is your problem
Sinsie says (9:00 PM):
you have nothing on me
Locke says (9:00 PM):
All that did is get locked after awhile, I don't see a resolution.
Sinsie says (9:00 PM):
just upset
Locke says (9:00 PM):
I'm not upset.
Sinsie says (9:00 PM):
You're saying I did stuff and not saying what it is
Locke says (9:01 PM):
I really don't think you guys have any chance after what you pulled with Gaku, I wouldn't have even posted if Kumog didn't, but I wasn't going to let him post alone.

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Sinsie says (9:01 PM):
You just hate us for not liking you at first for trying to get rid of us for no reason on the forums :/
Locke says (9:01 PM):
I don't hate you.
Sinsie says (9:01 PM):
you're saying we did stuff, but can't think of anything remotely close
Locke says (9:01 PM):
Why are you so defensive when someone finally disagrees with you in a competent manner?
Sinsie says (9:02 PM):
oh my
Sinsie says (9:02 PM):
you are not competent
Sinsie says (9:02 PM):
you cannot tell me what you claim of me
Sinsie says (9:02 PM):
you just say it's there
Sinsie says (9:02 PM):
that's not competent
Sinsie says (9:02 PM):
that's lying
Locke says (9:02 PM):
Its not lieing. Here you go trying to twist things into something they're not to make yourself look better...again. Talking about something I can't remember specific details on is lying? No its not, lying would be if I said it happened and it never did.
Sinsie says (9:03 PM):
why are you saying anything at all, if you don't remember it
Sinsie says (9:03 PM):
why even go out of your way to say we did something, but you don't remember what
Sinsie says (9:03 PM):
what's the point
Sinsie says (9:03 PM):
it's jsut dislike if you have nothing else
Sinsie says (9:04 PM):
I'm not even asking specific stuff. What was I involved in?
Sinsie says (9:04 PM):
And what the heck did you find that was abusive?
Locke says (9:05 PM):
Why not? If I have nothing, why are you so defensive about it? Why don't you just let the community go "ok, Locke's pulling shit out of his ass, we won't believe him". Why do you feel the need to IM me about it so much?
Sinsie says (9:06 PM):
I want to know your problem with me.
Sinsie says (9:06 PM):
The real one.
Locke says (9:07 PM):
I have no real problem with you. I just don't think you'd be a very good admin. I'm not pulling things out of my ass, I really remember the times with Norkia, and I remember things happening, I remember you letting them get away with harrassment, spamming, spam killing, etc. I'm not letting you guys be admins again as long as I am.
Locke says (9:08 PM):
I'd be content to be your friend, or let you help me out, but as soon as you asked for admin the first time after I got it, and I said "no, but I welcome any advice" you stopped talking to me and you guys started attacking me on the forums again.
Locke says (9:08 PM):
Rather than try to help.
Sinsie says (9:08 PM):
I never let them get away with anything. I even monitored their killings and people that hated them did as well. No one posted spam-kill topics with pictures proving it.
Locke says (9:08 PM):
Which makes it obvious this is just a power grab and you don't care about the game.
Sinsie says (9:08 PM):
dude, you're a liar
Sinsie says (9:08 PM):
you said on the forums
Sinsie says (9:08 PM):
"I'd never let anyone hide behind development"
Locke says (9:08 PM):
Calling me a liar obviously means I am one. *rolls eyes*
Sinsie says (9:08 PM):
we told you before when attacking a domain
Sinsie says (9:09 PM):
"they're putting stone behind the wooden gates Locke!"
Sinsie says (9:09 PM):
"they're in development
Sinsie says (9:09 PM):
So because of that, you wouldn't do anything about them abusing that glitch
Locke says (9:10 PM):
So one time? You guys didn't explain it at all. You could have bug reported it, but you didn't. You also just assumed they were purposely abusing it, when we really had no basis for saying that. Because they're your enemies and I was on your side, you just expected to pull a couple of strings and I'd do what you wanted.
Locke says (9:10 PM):
Unlike you guys, I'm fair. Even though I didn't like either of them, I wasn't going to punish them for something they probably weren't even aware of.
Sinsie says (9:11 PM):
YOu didn't look into it, you said they're on development, Gaku wouldn't let them get banned
Sinsie says (9:11 PM):
Didn't explain it? You responded pretty clearly
Sinsie says (9:12 PM):
Bug reported? Is there even on on these forums?
Sinsie says (9:12 PM):
Fair
Sinsie says (9:12 PM):
you didn't LOOK into it
Sinsie says (9:12 PM):
you didn't care
Locke says (9:12 PM):
You don't know where the bug report forum is on the Terulia forums?
Locke says (9:12 PM):
I did, what was I supposed to do? How could I look into it? What, talk to them?
Sinsie says (9:12 PM):
Terulia. Pretty sure Gaku said no more for FFO as it was a done deal
Sinsie says (9:12 PM):
we tried doing bug reports before but were told that it's a no-go for FFO now
Sinsie says (9:13 PM):
No you didn't
Locke says (9:13 PM):
http://www.terulia.com/?f=gaku&s=8
Locke says (9:13 PM):
I worked that wrong, I didn't look into it because there was nothing to look into. No logs or anything could prove it, it was their word against yours.
Locke says (9:13 PM):
*worded
Sinsie says (9:14 PM):
You could've WENT THERE AND LOOKED
Locke says (9:14 PM):
I saw they were doing it, but I wasn't aware it was a bug and neither was anyone else.
Sinsie says (9:14 PM):
when we kill the gate ten times over and it doesn't get destroyed, and stones are only underneath the gate, it's pretty clear
Sinsie says (9:14 PM):
we told you
Sinsie says (9:14 PM):
it was a bug
Locke says (9:15 PM):
I was in vent with them, you guys thought you were killing the army for half that fight and you only got a couple of units at the very beginning, why would I think anything else you told me is true? Frankly, why would I just believe something you tell me?
Sinsie says (9:15 PM):
so you're saying that, our report wasn't good enough for you to do your job
Sinsie says (9:16 PM):
when people told me stuff, I looked into it
Sinsie says (9:16 PM):
I didn't take their word to ban people, I took their word to look
Locke says (9:16 PM):
Right; there was nothing to look into. Its a pretty cut and dried situation, don't try to make it look bigger than it is.
Locke says (9:16 PM):
Like I said, it was your word against yours.
Locke says (9:16 PM):
So tell me
Sinsie says (9:16 PM):
You know what I could do without all those fancy powers? Walk up to the domain, say it's official admin business, and ask them to open their wooden gate
Locke says (9:16 PM):
if you were in my shoes
Locke says (9:16 PM):
what would you have done?
Sinsie says (9:16 PM):
how lucky, I just did

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Okay so Garral who does nothing but troll and grab attention, Locke who has lost all credibility, and Kumog, a moogle, are against us.

This just shows you're trying to make us look bad in an immature way to make yourself look better. Garral presents some pretty good points sometimes, especially in topics like this. He trolls less serious forums, but when it comes down to it his words should be looked at just as much as anyone else. As for me, that's your subjective opinion, and not backed up by anything, and for Kumog: really? Because he plays a character that's a moogle? That matters in this? Grow up.

First off your whole bad admin crap is just that, crap. We never had to ban Norkia for bug abuse because they didn't abuse bugs. Why? Because we were admins. They knew that we'd ban them. It's hilarious we've said this countless times and Norkia has ADMITTED it and yet this is all you can use over and over. That mantra training bullshit? They said they didn't even want to HINT at it to us because they feared us banning them or reporting them.

Your word against ours, etc.

Do you know who went to Gaku? Dzungaria-type people. Because they were too ignorant to even ATTEMPT to try us out first. They just ASSUMED. By the way Kumog, these are the same people who had hundreds of fabricated photos they were saving up to try and get Sinsie demoted (also has been admitted).

Maybe the reason they went to Gaku directly is because they knew you didn't like them, knew you were biased against them, and knew you were corrupt and wouldn't do anything for them. They knew there would be no point in trying you, and to challenge your authority would just make life more difficult for them.

I don't remember the fabricated photos thing, and I'm not providing any links so I won't require it, but I would appreciate a link to that, because I honestly don't remember it.


Furthermore as the age of admins has moved on it's gotten worse and worse and I've seen people who hate my guts admit it was better when Sinsie and I were admins.

Probably because, unlike you, I'm not bullshitting when I say I care about the game. I moderate harder than you because I care. This isn't about the power for me, its about doing a service to Gaku and helping the community. Also, people tend to see the old times in rose-tinted glasses, that's just a common fact of psychology, not a valid point that belongs in a debate.

And Locke, we've been saying that's why we picked admin for YEARS. That's the ORIGINAL reason we took it. We didn't want some one like TRISTAN NITE or some one like SEISHORO to be admin.

Yes, you've been using the same excuse for years. I'm not surprised.

And me playing mind games with you? I tried to be nice to you and treat you unlike an admin. Treat you like a normal player. And you liked that, calling me your friend and shit. But this recent event has proven you don't WANT to be treated like a normal player. Thus I will TURN on you.


It doesn't have anything to do with how I want to be treated. You just sucked up because you wanted me to do whatever you want, and at least once I was dumb enough to let it happen to me. That was a failing on my part. The specific example I remember is that time you got me to reboot after a day just so you could mine more.

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Locke says (9:17 PM):
Ok, so you can see the stone under the gate. Kind of funny that I already addressed this when I said nobody knew if it was a bug or not.
Locke says (9:17 PM):
So what would you do after that?
Locke says (9:17 PM):
How could you determine anything from that?
Sinsie says (9:17 PM):
test it
Sinsie says (9:17 PM):
I know I'm a brilliant genius but
Locke says (9:17 PM):
Sure I had time to test it when you were in the middle of attacking it.
Sinsie says (9:17 PM):
actually yeah
Sinsie says (9:17 PM):
you could've said what you were doing
Sinsie says (9:17 PM):
then made us do stuff
Sinsie says (9:17 PM):
why not?
Sinsie says (9:18 PM):
why is being admin so hard for you?
Locke says (9:18 PM):
Why not? Well, first of all, you guys and half the community would rage that I stopped a pvp fight to investigate a bug that the attackers said existed.
Sinsie says (9:18 PM):
and so easy for me?
Sinsie says (9:18 PM):
We ASKED you to
Locke says (9:18 PM):
Probably because you just want it for the power, and don't know how to do your job, and aren't fair, whereas I am.
Sinsie says (9:18 PM):
why are you so against doing your job in this scanario?
Sinsie says (9:18 PM):
what
Locke says (9:18 PM):
I'm not, why are you acting like I am?
Sinsie says (9:19 PM):
you're accusing me of that on what grounds
Locke says (9:19 PM):
I'm explaining to you why I couldn't have done anything.
Sinsie says (9:19 PM):
I just told you clear as day how you could
Sinsie says (9:19 PM):
you just don't know HOW to do your own job
Sinsie says (9:19 PM):
this proves it
Locke says (9:19 PM):
Why don't you read the topic where I gave you my reasonsing for that.
Locke says (9:19 PM):
Oh, really now? Here you go again, saying "this proves it" to try to validate your point of view with no real support.
Sinsie says (9:19 PM):
.... holy shit
Sinsie says (9:19 PM):
it's right there I don't know what else to do Locke...
Sinsie says (9:20 PM):
I just explained it all
Sinsie says (9:20 PM):
honestly are you just doing this to me for fun
Sinsie says (9:20 PM):
scroll up, I just solved the situation...
Locke says (9:20 PM):
You obviously don't know how to explain things then, or maybe its that you just don't understand that you're wrong.
Locke says (9:20 PM):
For fun? No, I want a stable community as much as you claim to.
Sinsie says (9:20 PM):
No you don't.
Sinsie says (9:20 PM):
You punished people for pissing you off
Sinsie says (9:20 PM):
and used admin to escape them
Sinsie says (9:21 PM):
Me? I have plenty of topics where I do my job on the old forum, and even people I banned saying I was one of the best admins
Locke says (9:21 PM):
No I didn't. I punished them for trolling a decision I made, and then crossing the line when I specifically said not to do something.
Sinsie says (9:21 PM):
What are you a girl
Sinsie says (9:21 PM):
I'M a girl and I don't do that
Locke says (9:21 PM):
So....because of someone saying you were one of the best admins you are?
Locke says (9:21 PM):
Don't do what?
Sinsie says (9:21 PM):
someone?
Sinsie says (9:21 PM):
Way more than that
Locke says (9:22 PM):
Ok, that doesn't really mean anything. Just because you're good at manipulating people into supporting you doesn't mean you're right. Its obvious to anyone looking for it what you're doing.
Sinsie says (9:22 PM):
Locke, you made a "protest" (boycott isn't the right word) and almost everyone but three people was against you in that topic out of nearly the whole community
Locke says (9:22 PM):
You continue to change words around, make statements that say that something means one thing when it doesn't, and the like.
Locke says (9:22 PM):
I made a protest?
Sinsie says (9:22 PM):
philosophically speaking, if everyone's upset about something and you don't see why, is there a chance there's a problem in your logic
Sinsie says (9:22 PM):
you made one happen I mean
Sinsie says (9:23 PM):
I'm not CHANGING WORDS
Sinsie says (9:23 PM):
I'm TELLING YOU STUFF
Sinsie says (9:23 PM):
directly!
Sinsie says (9:23 PM):
You give me the impression that you have a mental defect
Sinsie says (9:23 PM):
it's so frusterating
Locke says (9:23 PM):
Theres always a chance. HI, I had this conversation with LP. Nobody is infallible, but I supported my points and the other side reduced themselves to caps and personal attacks and recycling the same thing over and over, and asking me to respond to things I already directly addressed...
Locke says (9:24 PM):
They couldn't present a civil, calm, well-thought out response that made more sense than mine, and here we are.
Locke says (9:24 PM):
Oh wow, flaming, that's real smooth.
Sinsie says (9:24 PM):
that's because you're refusing to see it
Locke says (9:24 PM):
You can say that all you want, it doesn't make it true.
Sinsie says (9:24 PM):
whatever, let the community decide. They can read.

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I'm glad you posted that conversation Sinsie, I was about to. It just goes to show how desperate you really are.

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Gene for admin :)



but really Cea and Sinsie are like perfect for the job, you guys just loathe them too much to see it.

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Zeno wrote:

Gene for admin :)



but really Cea and Sinsie are like perfect for the job, you guys just loathe them too much to see it.

This is a great, well thought out post with a lot of content.

10/10 would read again.

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Locke wrote:

Zeno wrote:

Gene for admin :)



but really Cea and Sinsie are like perfect for the job, you guys just loathe them too much to see it.

This is a great, well thought out post with a lot of content.

10/10 would read again.

this is a fail post well thought out also oh wait my post is so small because THAT is all there needs to be

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Yes, because just saying "they're perfect you just don't see it" really works. And insulting my response that called it out...?

That's like, what? 3rd grade? Stop embarrassing yourself, Gene.

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Locke wrote:

Yes, because just saying "they're perfect you just don't see it" really works.

That's like, what? 3rd grade? Stop embarrassing yourself, Gene.

they worked before with norkia just because they didn't do what you wanted don't mean shit

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I would have typed up a long and lengthy response as to how Cea flames outside of the FL and trolls more than I do, but then I realized his post could stand on its' own as to why he should never be an admin.

Outright flaming people he's having an argument with, not to mention calling most of the community 'newfags'? And you fucking call me elitist?

You're unfit, everybody knows about the corrupt shit you did for people under the table and no matter how much you try to deny it, it's still there, glaringly.

Furthermore, if I recall correctly, you were admins during the sexual harassment deal. Why pressure Emma to do the banning, why not do it yourselves?(Ignore this if I'm wrong about everyone's poisitions at the time.)

You're done, kid, you're done.

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Zeno wrote:

Locke wrote:

Yes, because just saying "they're perfect you just don't see it" really works.

That's like, what? 3rd grade? Stop embarrassing yourself, Gene.

they worked before with norkia just because they didn't do what you wanted don't mean shit

This is the last time I'm going to respond to your posts in this topic, and the only reason I'm responding to this one is that I just want to make it clear, I don't think you're right or anything, you just say "it worked!" and expect everyone to agree with you. There's really not much else to say to you now that you've done the same thing for three posts.


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Okay, well, how about the ones having the main argument right now stop posting for awhile, and let everyone else just read these posts right now and decide for themselves? If it's just us it won't matter because the topic's just about us. Let's stop posting for a bit and see what everyone else interprets from all this.

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Sinsie wrote:

Okay, well, how about the ones having the main argument right now stop posting for awhile, and let everyone else just read these posts right now and decide for themselves? If it's just us it won't matter because the topic's just about us. Let's stop posting for a bit and see what everyone else interprets from all this.

Works for me, its not like we'll ever agree with each other anyway. You can keep calling me a retard in msn if you want, though. Until I get bored and block you, I guess. I might as well not respond to this topic anymore because I've made my point, and as usual you're going to twist it in circles to try and make it mean something totally different, so there is no point in going on.

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This all seems rather familiar..

http://s3.invisionfree.com/ffo/ar/t10551.htm
http://s3.invisionfree.com/ffo/index.php?showtopic=10551


For those of you who don't want to read:



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